The Flickering Dreams Oscars Special for 2024 - Our Predictions for the Awards (Ep. 54, 9th March 2024)

Bob Mann (00:01.506)
Hello everybody it is the 96th Academy Awards on Sunday and in this special edition of Flickering Dreams we are gonna be pitching our hat into the ring ring in terms of what we think as a collective group are

Rev. Andy Godfrey (00:03.184)
Yep.

Scott Forbes (00:06.142)
not for on the oh there we go

Rev. Andy Godfrey (00:07.784)
Yeah.

Bob Mann (00:31.618)
pick up the awards at the Oscars. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to share my screen here and we will talk through the different Oscar categories and then we will, you will see what are.

Scott Forbes (00:45.402)
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Bob Mann (01:02.294)
Votes are for them. Ah, that's not right. Sorry, a second. Let me switch the presenter view.

Bob Mann (01:17.874)
Display settings, swap presenter and slide view.

Bob Mann (01:25.122)
and try sharing again.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (01:31.976)
Just thinking you don't have to have a beard on Flickering Dreams, but it does help.

Bob Mann (01:32.866)
OK, so the Oscar predictions as in true kind of style of having the slightly minor awards at the beginning and saving the big ones till the end. That's what we're going to do in this session. So we're going to start by talking about the best live action short.

Scott Forbes (01:37.726)
Hehehe.

Bob Mann (01:58.85)
We'll be very quick on this one because I actually haven't seen any of these yet. I hope to see them before Sunday, but at the moment I've not seen any of these live action shorts. I actually spending the time to try and track down the short films and watching them is a really useful and valuable thing to do because some of these are little gems. I remember from, from last Oscar season.

watching all of the short films before the event. And some of them were really, really, really good. The kind of juggernaut in here is The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar, which is a Wes Anderson film, which is a very Wes Anderson -y film. That's the only one that I've actually watched. I didn't actually finish watching it. I've watched about half of that. But that feels like kind of...

Scott Forbes (02:44.414)
I've seen this one as well.

Yeah, it was, it was very Wes Anderson, wasn't it?

Bob Mann (02:52.746)
very Wes Anderson, but it feels like it's the kind of juggernaut compared to all these little films who are trying to compete. It's a bit of a David and Goliath. And I don't quite know what the Academy will do about that because I suspect in terms of quality of film and production values and all that stuff, Henry Sugar is going to wipe the floor with everybody else. But that might mean that they kind of say, well, this isn't really very fair and vote for something else. So

No idea, but anyway, we will see what happens with that one. Also, I've not seen any of the best animated shorts, as indeed none of the team have. So again, I will try and dig those out. Some of these filmmakers have been very crafty. Some of them are freely available on platforms like Vimeo and YouTube. Others have stuck a paywall in front of them, which frankly, if I'd made a little animated short film.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (03:23.336)
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Bob Mann (03:49.186)
and it had got Oscar nominated, I would stick a paywall in front of them and try and get a few dollars from every film critic who wanted to try and see them. So good for them, I say. The next category, I have actually seen all of these films in the best documentary short category, but I think I'm the only one who's done that. In terms of the one that I think will pick up the Oscar, it's the ABCs of Book Banning, which is really quite an interesting,

Rev. Andy Godfrey (03:51.976)
Yeah.

Bob Mann (04:19.298)
film about book censorship in America. And it's quite extraordinary how many famous books are banned, like The Hobbit is a banned book and The Life Story of Anne Frank is a banned book. Just extraordinary. I I have no idea. I have no idea. It's one of my criticisms of the film is it's a very one sided film.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (04:36.712)
Why is the Hobbit banned Bob, do they tell you?

Rev. Andy Godfrey (04:43.176)
That's crazy.

Bob Mann (04:48.226)
in that what they've basically done is they've presented all of these banned books to school children, got them to read them. And then a lot of the film is the kids kind of blankly staring at the camera saying, well, why would this have been banned? And some of them are kind of kids' storybooks. There's one about two gay penguins who are bringing up a baby chick on their own as a family.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (05:09.96)
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Rev. Andy Godfrey (05:18.056)
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Bob Mann (05:18.434)
And you can quite see how the far right movement in the US would object to that. But the diary of Anne Frank and the life of Rosa Park and the Hobbit, I mean, it's completely bonkers. There's another potential one that I think stands a chance and that's The Last Repair Shop, which is about a charity repairing school instruments in Los Angeles. And the fact is based in Los Angeles.

kind of the home of the Academy or most of the Academy. You never know on that one. The one I really liked as well was the Barber of Little Rock, which is freely available on YouTube. It's basically think of the Bank of Dave and stick it into Little Rock, Arkansas. And that's basically the basis of the Barber of Little Rock. But that's really quite an interesting film.

Scott Forbes (06:00.986)
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Rev. Andy Godfrey (06:12.376)
A quick Google search reveals that the Hobbit was banned because of witchcraft and satanic themes. Which bearing in mind that Tolkien was claimed to be a born -again Christian. It's really interesting and stupid. Only in America.

Bob Mann (06:14.818)
Yeah

Scott Forbes (06:20.798)
Of course.

Bob Mann (06:22.754)
claim to be a born -again Christian.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (06:27.65)
And stupid only in America

Bob Mann (06:28.738)
It's ridiculous, isn't it? It's ridiculous. Only in America. Only in America. Yeah. Yeah. But all five of those documentaries, you can see why they were nominated because they are good watches and you can find all of them. You find two of them on YouTube, two of them on Disney Plus and one of them, the top one on Paramount Plus. But they really are worth kind of 20 minutes, half an hour of your time to watch them. Coming on to the main categories that we've all...

Rev. Andy Godfrey (06:47.746)
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Rev. Andy Godfrey (06:55.508)
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Bob Mann (06:58.562)
pitched in our votes for the next one coming up is best costume design. And the, um, I realized that we're going to have audio listeners here, so I better read them out. The nominees for this are Barbie, Killers of the Flower Moon, Napoleon, Oppenheimer, and Poor Things. And, uh, where our votes went, we actually selected Poor Things as the winner of best costume design.

with myself, Scott and Dan voting for that. Andy, you went for Killers of the Flower Moon.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (07:33.052)
I think the Academy tend to like historical dramas.

Bob Mann (07:39.244)
Yeah, yeah, it's difficult to know how the Academy will react to Poor Things. I think it's it might be a bit out there for them. But an Emma went for Barbie, which again, I could see that potentially winning through for costume design as well. But the consensus for us was Poor Things for that one. Best.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (07:44.554)
Yeah.

Scott Forbes (07:58.192)
I definitely think Barbie's got a shot though I was very 50 -50 between Poor Things and Barbie on this.

Bob Mann (08:03.746)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Best Makeup and Hair, the nominees are Golda, Maestro, Oppenheimer, Poor Things and Society of the Snow. Good to see Society of the Snow getting another nomination. Very good film, I thought. And we again went for Poor Things as the nominee there. That was...

Rev. Andy Godfrey (08:12.962)
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Rev. Andy Godfrey (08:27.11)
But here's one of my problems with the Academy, the nominations. Best makeup and hair. Why isn't Barbie in that list? Surely hair, you know the dolls hair, the makeup, the way that they were made to look. I don't understand why Barbie is not in that list personally, but there you go.

Bob Mann (08:39.874)
Yeah.

Bob Mann (08:47.298)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, maybe people thought that the makeup for Helen Mirren for Golda was was worth kind of putting into that thing and Barbie dropped out as number six. I don't know. So myself and Andy and Emma voted for Poor Things. Scott, you went for Maestro together with Dan.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (08:59.202)
Thank you.

Scott Forbes (09:11.024)
Yeah, I think the Academy has a history of mixing together the hair and makeup category with one of the main acting categories and the fact that we've got Bradley Cooper up for best actor and he's the main one that's to do with the makeup for this that I think gives Maestro the edge. I think if Willem Dafoe was up for a nomination that could help Poor Things in this category but I think the correlation between

Bob Mann (09:19.042)
Rev. Andy Godfrey (09:24.322)
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Bob Mann (09:38.402)
Mm.

Scott Forbes (09:40.478)
Cooper and Maestro here is what will give Maestro the edge.

Bob Mann (09:42.594)
Okay, that's interesting. We will see. We will see. It's good that we diverge a bit on these categories because in some of the main categories we are in lockstep with our view. Best production design. We've actually got a split here. So Scott and Dan went for Barbie for best production design. Sorry, nominees are Barbie, Killers of the Flower Moon, Napoleon, Oppenheimer and Poor

Rev. Andy Godfrey (09:46.274)
and

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It gets boring.

Bob Mann (10:09.442)
Things again, I've again gone for Poor Things. I've just kind of think that's going to mop these awards up, but who knows? I don't know everything. Um, and Andy went for Poor Things. Uh, Scott and Dan went for Barbie. Again, excellent production design. I just think some of the detail in Poor Things, as well as the things like the kind of the, uh, mechanical pretend horse drawn steam engine thing. And there are lots of fantastic.

Scott Forbes (10:15.838)
I'd say another 50 -50 on this one.

Bob Mann (10:39.508)
fantastical things in Poor Things from a production design viewpoint. I thought were great. But then again, the whole of Barbie's world and its fluorescent pink shortage of paint around the world due to Barbie, that's got to stand for something as well. So Emma actually went for Napoleon there for production design, which again is a very glossy film, but I'm not sure that.

the success or the lack of success at the box office of Napoleon will necessarily help that. Shouldn't make any difference to what wins the award, but it does. Best Original Score. We've gone in the majority here for Oppenheimer, which is Ludwig Globober. I've forgotten his surname.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (11:16.022)
Nobody does.

Scott Forbes (11:31.068)
Göransson. Göransson.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (11:33.076)
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Bob Mann (11:35.202)
What's that? Göransson. That's right. I can never remember the guy's name. Ludwig Göransson scored for Oppenheimer. Andy, you went for John Williams for Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Yeah.

Scott Forbes (11:35.95)
Ludwig Göransson.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (11:45.538)
Yeah, potentially John Williams last ever score and I think the Academy will be nostalgic and go for him. More than enough.

Bob Mann (11:54.294)
Yeah, maybe.

Scott Forbes (11:55.614)
How many's he got so far though? He's already got a freak. Exactly.

Bob Mann (11:59.522)
He's got more than enough on his mantelpiece. Yes. Yes. And the other one that I ummed and ah'd about was Killers of the Flower Moon because it was Robbie Robertson's last film before he died. So again, there might be a bit of a sway towards that, but I think the Oppenheimer soundtrack kind of stands out for me. Yeah. Poor Things is in there as well as a real wild card for Juskin.

Again, I've gotten his name. Juskin, Fendrix, Juskin. Was it Fendrix? Yeah, Jerskin Fendrix. And such a weird score, but very fitting for the film, but I'm not sure it will get the Academy votes to see it through.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (12:45.826)
He's got five so far.

Bob Mann (12:49.408)
What five?

Rev. Andy Godfrey (12:49.73)
Must have more than that Williams, I must be getting that wrong. You must be more than that.

Scott Forbes (12:50.622)
It could be five. It's ridiculous.

Bob Mann (12:52.898)
Well, he's been nominated 54 to 55 times, hasn't he? But I don't think he's won that num that many of them. Yeah, that's right.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (12:54.912)
Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, the one everybody always forgets about is Fiddler on the Roof, of course. We all think of the Spielberg films, but...

Scott Forbes (13:03.198)
the first one.

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Bob Mann (13:07.426)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Next up, we've got best original song and the nominees for that are the Fire Inside from Flaming Hot. I'm Just Ken from Barbie. It Never Went Away from American Symphony. Wahzhazhe from Killers of the Flower Moon and What Was I Made For? from Barbie. And the majority there have gone for What Was I Made For?, the Billie Eilish song.

from Barbie, which of course won the BAFTA. And that was.

Scott Forbes (13:42.75)
also won the Grammy for best song at the Grammys.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (13:44.098)
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Bob Mann (13:46.658)
Yeah, yeah. So, to me, I think that's probably nailed on. But that was myself, Scott and Andy that went for that. Emma and Dan went for I'm Just Ken, which I have to say out of that list is the one that I'm most looking forward to seeing performed on Sunday night. Yeah, I don't think it's you see, I was having this argument with the illustrious Mrs. Movie Mann that

Scott Forbes (14:04.574)
I hope I'm wrong, I really want Ken to win.

Bob Mann (14:16.066)
I mean, it's great fun, but I'm not sure it's a, it's a great song. Um, the way that What Was I Made For? is, but we'll see that of course, if Billy Eilish won that, that would be her second Academy award with Finneas uh, in, uh, three years, because she won for No Time To Die. Um, two years ago. Best Documentary Feature. I have to hang my head in shame on this one because I'm afraid I have not seen a single.

Scott Forbes (14:23.518)
Hmm.

Bob Mann (14:45.57)
film in this list and given that they're all feature films, I'm probably not going to get to see many of them before Sunday. So I've basically voted here for 20 days in Mariupol, which seems to be have the buzz about it. And I think it won the BAFTA as well, didn't it, Scott? But we've all voted for that. Andy, you voted for Bobi Wine: The People's President.

Scott Forbes (15:06.366)
Yeah, it did.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (15:09.19)
Basically because it's the only one I've seen But I really enjoyed it I saw it at a press screening I'm surprised it hasn't got more traction than that. I don't think it's come out here yet This on Disney Plus, I didn't know so I mean, I think it's a really insightful helpful Documentary into the central character and really well done

Bob Mann (15:14.698)
All right. Yep.

Scott Forbes (15:24.03)
It's on Disney Plus, it's recently just come out.

Bob Mann (15:24.258)
Right. Oh, okay.

Bob Mann (15:36.514)
Okay, okay. Right. So we'll see on that one. We're a bit in the dark on that category, I think. Best sound. This is quite an interesting one. The nominees are The Creator, Maestro, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One, and Oppenheimer, and The Zone of Interest. In terms of where we put our votes, we actually split on this one. So...

Scott Forbes (15:41.982)
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Bob Mann (16:05.576)
Scott and Andy went for Oppenheimer. I, um, and Myself and Dan went for The Zone of Interest and I can see either of those really winning through there. I think The Zone of Interest is so based around the sound design.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (16:10.932)
Well I hope Zone of Interest wins but I've just got a feeling Oppenheimer might but I would like to see Zone of Interest win it.

Scott Forbes (16:29.47)
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Bob Mann (16:29.886)
I mean, the one that really struck me and I actually noted down in my review at the time was The Creator, which is what Emma has gone for. The sound design of that film, I think is superb. And it's, yeah, it's, That's my "Should Win", actually, in terms of my "Will Win" and "Should Win".

Rev. Andy Godfrey (16:41.986)
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Rev. Andy Godfrey (16:51.714)
My fear with Zone of Interest is that again, and I'm sorry to have said, but I don't think enough members of the Academy would have seen it. And I think they'll all have seen Oppenheimer and Oppenheimer will just get on the road.

Bob Mann (16:58.974)
Yeah, yes might be might be we'll see we'll see Best film editing the nominees are Anatomy of a Fall, The Holdovers, Killers of the Flower Moon, Oppenheimer and Poor Things and this is our first full court press that we have all voted for Oppenheimer to pick up the Oscar for best

film editing. So that almost guarantees that we're going to be completely wrong on that category. It's going to go somewhere else.

Scott Forbes (17:32.574)
I'd be happy to be wrong on this one, Anatomy of a Fall she'd be winning this.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (17:33.89)
You

Bob Mann (17:38.238)
Yes, I had that.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (17:41.346)
Well I'd like to see The Holdovers get it but...

Bob Mann (17:44.67)
Yeah. Best visual effects. And look at that on the list. Godzilla Minus One gets an Academy Award nomination, which I gave a big cheer for that when the nominations came up. I have to say the nominees are The Creator, Godzilla Minus One, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One and Napoleon. And in terms of who we put our votes against.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (17:54.306)
Yes.

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Bob Mann (18:14.142)
The majority here went for The Creator. I actually started off by putting down Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1 because I was thinking of all of the wonderful scenes at the end with the train and working their way through the train, which there was a lot of visual effects going on there. But then I thought back to that scene where Tom Cruise rides his bike off the mountain, which...

And clearly he did it on a big ramp. And maybe the problem there is you've seen so many behind the scenes things of the big ramp. But when you actually see it in the film, it doesn't look real. It doesn't look real.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (18:48.396)
It's disappointing. And ends up coming sideways through a train window at exactly the right moment as the hero is about to be shot.

Bob Mann (18:57.214)
Yes, perfectly reasonable Andy, I don't know what you're talking about.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (19:02.868)
No, I'm praying for your cinematic soul Bob.

Scott Forbes (19:04.702)
This is probably the hardest. This is probably the hardest category to predict, at least in my opinion, because I think there's potentially four winners here. I don't think Guardians of Galaxy is going to take this one, but I could make an argument for any of the rest. Godzilla Minus One, surprising effects for a little company. Creator, arguably the best special effects. Napoleon, they love their historical epics with the lots of like the armies and that's

Bob Mann (19:14.566)
Scott Forbes (19:34.142)
partly why I've went with it. But even Mission Impossible, there was something I read, I can't remember the exact number, but they talked about the thousands of visual effects and it's the film out of all films in cinema with the most special effects. So do they award the most special effects or the best special effects? I, this, yeah, this one is a literal throw a dice.

Bob Mann (19:35.742)
Yeah.

Bob Mann (19:46.398)
So, to deliver the most special effects.

Who knows who knows where that's gonna go yeah So, yeah, so we we kind of collectively picked The Creator, but I think that's a real lottery that one could go anywhere Best International Feature the Nominees for that are Io Capitano from Italy Perfect Days the film we were talking about in the last podcast from Japan Society of the snow from Spain

Rev. Andy Godfrey (19:58.732)
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Bob Mann (20:38.272)
So I think by default it will pick up the Best International Feature film. Again, I don't know about you guys, but I'm very short on seeing these. I've not seen Io Capitano, Perfect Days or The Teacher's Lounge. I feel generally quite short on seeing the Oscar films this year. I think I managed to get to see just about every film last year.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (20:52.972)
No, I haven't. I've only seen society as a Zone of Interest.

Scott Forbes (20:55.886)
Yeah, see you guys

Bob Mann (21:07.552)
But I've got a few categories like this one that I'm quite sure on this year. Best animated feature. We have nominees of The Boy and the Heron, Elemental, Nimona, Robot Dreams and Spider -Man: Across the Spider-Verse. We've been pretty unanimous on this in that four of us have gone for The Boy and the Heron. Andy, you were the outlier there going for Spider -Man: Across the Spider-Verse, which was my should win.

Scott Forbes (21:34.11)
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Bob Mann (21:37.248)
to be honest. But I think that.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (21:39.244)
I have never seen a comic book brought to life in such very detail or so well. It was like watching an animated comic book and I just thought it was superb.

Bob Mann (21:43.616)
Yeah.

Bob Mann (21:50.144)
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So, um, yeah, but I think The Boy and the Heron was such a big success, particularly in the U S that, uh, I think it's, um, it's likely to pick it up. But for me, I, again, I would give it to Spider-Man.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (22:02.37)
Hmm.

Scott Forbes (22:03.55)
I'm gonna...

I'm going to go with what Andy said earlier about John Williams and that this is Miyazaki's return and it's probably his final film. And he hasn't, it's just the whole of this season as well, I've been predicting Spider-Man and Boy and the Heron is just the one that's got the momentum. It's been the one that's picking up the most things in most recently.

Bob Mann (22:08.818)
Rev. Andy Godfrey (22:12.428)
Yeah, I think you got a point Scott.

Bob Mann (22:24.608)
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I agree. I agree. Best adapted screenplay. So we're starting to get a little heavy hitting categories here. The nominees here are American Fiction, Barbie, Oppenheimer, Poor Things and The Zone of Interest. And we've actually split the vote again here between American Fiction, which I've gone for and Scott's gone for, The Zone of Interest, which Andy's gone for.

Scott Forbes (22:51.984)
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Bob Mann (23:00.96)
Zone of interest best adapted screenplay. I wasn't sure.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (23:04.8)
It's based on Martin Whats-his-name's book.

Bob Mann (23:07.808)
Martin Amis's book, yeah.

But I thought it was a, I thought it was fairly loose adaptation of that book, but I might be, I might be wrong. I mean, for me, the script that stood out there was American Fiction, which I think was really, really cleverly put together, had so many, so many great lines in it, particularly having gone to watch it a second time, I really got a lot more out of it. There was loads of lines and comedy in there that I just missed the first time that I saw it. So it's, um,

Rev. Andy Godfrey (23:16.172)
I've not read it so...

Rev. Andy Godfrey (23:39.756)
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Bob Mann (23:42.208)
Really cool script, but we will see. We will see.

Scott Forbes (23:45.182)
I think if there's something going to give a challenge there, I'm surprised none of us voted for Barbie because with the whole Greta Gerwig not getting nominated for director backlash, this is the place where people who want to support her could give her that. And...

Bob Mann (23:48.48)
Rev. Andy Godfrey (24:00.044)
I just wonder if Barbie's a bit too commercial for the Academy's liking. I mean it didn't get anything at the BAFTAs did it? Not a thing. I just wonder if it's a bit too commercial for...

Bob Mann (24:05.888)
I

I can see Barbie just picking up the single Oscar for the best song, to be honest.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (24:17.164)
Yeah, I just think it's... yeah.

Scott Forbes (24:18.238)
I would be ashamed.

Bob Mann (24:20.736)
I might be wrong. I mean, yeah, it's quite interesting as we move into these these other categories that we've all been very, very consistent and assumed that the Oscars are actually sewn on to certain films in the for the biggest awards. And so if there are going to be some surprises, it can be some big surprises, I think.

Best Original Screenplay, the nominees are Anatomy of a Fall, The Holdovers, Maestro, May December and Past Lives. And yeah, this one's interesting because I um'd and ah'd here about Anatomy of a Fall and The Holdovers. Actually, four of us have gone for The Holdovers and Scott, you went for Anatomy of a Fall. I've got a horrible feeling you might be right about this one, Scott.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (24:59.948)
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Scott Forbes (25:11.216)
I mean, if I'm wrong, then that's a...

Rev. Andy Godfrey (25:16.332)
I wonder if Par Slows might be the outsider here actually. Yeah.

Bob Mann (25:19.424)
Oh, do you think? Yeah. Yeah, but Past Lives seems to have been generally overlooked in the awards. So I'm not sure it's going to make a big comeback at the Oscars. But Anatomy of a Fall is such a clever, multi -layered script again. So I don't know. I don't know. I'm in two minds. I think if the Oscars were held in Europe, then Anatomy of a Fall would take it.

Scott Forbes (25:20.262)
Really?

Scott Forbes (25:26.206)
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Rev. Andy Godfrey (25:26.632)
Yeah.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (25:38.974)
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Rev. Andy Godfrey (25:46.188)
Ha ha ha.

Bob Mann (25:48.96)
But I don't know The Holdovers is going to get much.

Scott Forbes (25:50.686)
We have seen the Academy in recent years though, some of these European movies have done really well.

Bob Mann (25:57.694)
Yeah.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (25:57.794)
Korean movies have done well as well. You think of Parasite.

Bob Mann (26:02.046)
Yeah.

Bob Mann (26:05.504)
Yeah, but there's a lot of love for The Holdovers, I think. And it's not going to walk away with that much. So we'll see. This is the category that I'm really undecided about more than any of these other big awards. On to the Acting Awards. Best Supporting Actress. And I don't think it's any surprise that we've nailed our votes to Da'Vine Joy Randolph for The Holdovers.

Scott Forbes (26:06.11)
Yeah, be naughty.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (26:09.548)
Yeah.

Scott Forbes (26:23.454)
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Bob Mann (26:35.104)
Uh, the other nominees, by the way, are Emily Blunt for Oppenheimer, Danielle Brooks for The Color Purple, America Ferrera for Barbie and Jodie Foster for Nyad. Uh, Good to see Jodie Foster in that list. I have to say she was really, really good. Um, I mean, it's difficult to see it going anywhere other than Da'Vine Joy Randolph, isn't it? I think, um, I don't think anybody else in that list is going to touch her.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (26:47.02)
She was terrific in that. Yeah.

Bob Mann (27:04.992)
So I think we're, I think we'll happily put our bet onto that one and get very, very little back in terms of wins. Probably cost you more to put the bet on than it does than you get back. One of those votes, I think for that one. Best supporting actor, the nominees are Sterling K Brown for American Fiction, Robert De Niro for Killers of the Flower Moon, Robert Downey Jr. for Oppenheimer, Ryan Gosling for Barbie and Mark Ruffalo for Poor.

Things. And again, it's no surprise that we've all plumped for Robert Downey Jr. for Oppenheimer. I think it was a standout performance from Downey Jr. A real kind of recovery story for him, isn't it, in terms of where he was at one point and now he's right back on top again. Competition for that. I mean, Robert De Niro was outstanding, I think, in Killers of the Flower Moon.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (27:39.742)
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Rev. Andy Godfrey (27:57.822)
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Bob Mann (28:09.344)
only possible.

Scott Forbes (28:15.166)
The only person that's won anything at any of the other awards, The only one that's won anything at other awards was Ryan Gosling at Critics Choice and that came as a surprise even to Ryan Gosling.

Bob Mann (28:15.74)
I Danny Jr's got it nailed on. Yeah.

Bob Mann (28:24.798)
Yeah.

The only one I disagree with in that one is Mark Ruffalo for Poor Things. And a general whinge I have about this is the lack of any awards for All Of Us Strangers in here for supporting actor for Paul Mescal, supporting actress for Claire Foy.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (28:27.54)
Yeah, but...

Scott Forbes (28:27.966)
Nobody else has been winning anything.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (28:46.7)
I mean you could argue that the young lad in The Holdovers, and I forget his name, could have got a nomination to be honest.

Bob Mann (28:50.784)
Yes Yes, he i'm sure he's just off the bottom of this list as well. Yeah uh best director, uh, the Nominees are Justine Triet for Anatomy of a Fall, Martin Scorsese for Killers of the Flower Moon. I think i'm right in saying that's Scorsese is the oldest uh Director ever to be nominated for that award. I might be wrong about that

Scott Forbes (28:50.814)
on the XSR.

Scott Forbes (28:54.75)
You couldn't have been fired off.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (28:56.556)
Yeah. Yeah.

Scott Forbes (29:16.382)
I think I did hear that.

Bob Mann (29:18.384)
Christopher Nolan for Oppenheimer, Yorgos Lanthimos for Poor Things and Jonathan Glazer for The Zone of Interest. And again, no surprise here that we've all plumped for Christopher Nolan for Oppenheimer. Again, I think that's probably sewn on for best director. Would you agree guys? Yeah. Yeah. No competition. No competition.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (29:41.964)
Yeah, no competition.

Scott Forbes (29:42.622)
Yeah, I don't think any of us are excited about that win, but yeah, fine.

Bob Mann (29:48.432)
Hopefully he'll be slightly happier than when he won the BAFTA because he looked very grumpy. Now the top acting awards, best actor Bradley Cooper from Maestro, Colman Domingo for Rustin, Paul Giamatti for The Holdovers, Cillian Murphy for Oppenheimer and Jeffrey Wright for American Fiction. And again, no surprise here.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (29:50.092)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Scott Forbes (29:54.59)
Hopefully.

Bob Mann (30:17.152)
Just amazing how consistent we've been and potentially how boring the final stages of the Oscars are going to be. Cillian Murphy, I think he's just got that one hammered on. I mean, competition there, Paul Giamatti, I think is the one to watch out for, for The Holdovers. Dark Horse would be Jeffrey Wright for American Fiction.

think a lot of people, me included, love that performance from him. But it's got to be Cillian Murphy, I think for that. Now, best actress, the nominees here are Annette Bening for Nyad, Lily Gladstone for Killers of the Flower Moon, Sandra Huller for Anatomy of a Fall, Carrie Mulligan, the wonderful Carrie Mulligan for Maestro and Emma Stone for Poor Things.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (31:03.442)
She was good.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (31:11.178)
you

Bob Mann (31:16.64)
And much to my surprise on this, we collectively went for Emma Stone for Poor Things, the BAFTA nominee. So Andy, Emma and Dan went for Emma Stone. Scott and myself went for Lily Gladstone, who of course was, wasn't actually nominated for the BAFTA Best Actress Award, which is bizarre, isn't it? Where you get a clear favorite for the Academy.

Scott Forbes (31:28.638)
you

Rev. Andy Godfrey (31:42.506)
I see.

Bob Mann (31:45.6)
wasn't even nominated for the BAFTAs.

Bob Mann (31:51.936)
I mean, it could happen. It could happen. But for me, I think politically, this will be a political win, I think, for Lily Gladstone. Not to say that her performance wasn't really, really good in Killers of the Flower Moon. I was impressed by it. But given the momentum behind Lily Gladstone in the States, I think it's going to go with her. But this is one I will be holding my breath on.

Scott Forbes (31:52.126)
It's me.

Scott Forbes (32:14.608)
you

Bob Mann (32:21.52)
when it gets announced, I think, because it I think it's either between Gladstone and Stone and potentially it could go either way if there's a late surge. Would you agree?

Scott Forbes (32:34.238)
As you said Bob, the narrative is with Lily Gladstone there from a sort of political aspect. For me, she's actually my least favourite out of the five performances. I wouldn't have had her anywhere near this nomination. I wouldn't have even had her in the lead. She was support for my money. But Sandra Huller is my favourite and she has no chance.

Bob Mann (32:40.832)
Yep.

Bob Mann (32:50.496)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay

And then we get to the big one, which is Best Picture. And the nominees for this are American Fiction, Anatomy of a Fall, Barbie, The Holdovers, Killers of the Flower Moon, Maestro, Oppenheimer, Past Lives, Poor Things and The Zone of Interest -

Rev. Andy Godfrey (33:04.01)
So, yes.

Bob Mann (33:30.464)
And surprise surprise, we all went for Oppenheimer. Do you think guys there's a chance of a issue here?

Rev. Andy Godfrey (33:39.526)
Never in a month of Sundays.

Scott Forbes (33:47.134)
I'm trying to tell myself that there could be a backlash in a sort of like, Coda sort of way, where there's a late surge for something that... So the thing about Best Picture at the Oscars is the way the voting system goes, you've got that sort of preferential voting. So it might be that lots of people love Oppenheimer, but if a lot of people have it ranked lower in their 10, maybe there's a film that's everyone's number two or number three.

Bob Mann (33:56.768)
So the thing about Best Picture at Oscars is the way the voting system goes, you've got that...

Rev. Andy Godfrey (33:58.41)
you

Bob Mann (34:04.32)
So it might be that lots of people love our player, but if...

Yeah. Yep.

Scott Forbes (34:15.774)
and that could help it. The only thing I could think could be, because Oppenheimer, some people said it's too long. Some people didn't like the aspect of it. So same with a few of these films. I'm trying to think, is there any film in there that everyone was like, that was good and didn't really take criticism? The one that looks The Holdovers and American Fiction could be those ones.

Bob Mann (34:30.052)
The Holdovers maybe.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (34:34.826)
I mean this is my problem because how

How do you judge, how do you compare something like Barbie with The Holdovers? This is my big problem with award ceremonies in general. They're all winners as far as I'm concerned. And it boils down to a case very often, I think for a lot of people, what's your favorite rather than what's actually the best film? And then how do you define, because Holdovers is made in a totally different way to Oppenheimer, which is made in a totally different way to Barbie.

Bob Mann (35:02.464)
the

Rev. Andy Godfrey (35:07.882)
My favorite of that lot is The Holdovers.

Bob Mann (35:12.576)
Yeah, I mean I selected Oppenheimer as my film of the year last year, so I guess I have to stick with that.

Bob Mann (35:27.008)
I mean, American Fiction, I have to say, is high on my list as well as something I'd vote for. It's quite interesting. Maybe what we should have done for these films is use the Academy approach and each given them points, see which one rose to the top on that basis.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (35:31.112)
Yeah.

Scott Forbes (35:33.808)
you

Rev. Andy Godfrey (35:34.378)
you

Rev. Andy Godfrey (35:42.57)
Really difficult I Would have found that impossible. Maestro would be my least favorite that lot But

Scott Forbes (35:43.934)
That would have been interesting actually.

Bob Mann (35:46.142)
Yeah.

Bob Mann (35:51.104)
No, I would have knocked Maestro off the list and put All of us Strangers in there. I would have knocked probably Zone of Interest out as well and put something else in place of that. But yeah, so yeah, that's where we have... Well, I just knew we were not going to be able to get through this Oscar special before without...

Scott Forbes (35:54.878)
That would mean love.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (36:01.596)
Typist Artist Pirate King obviously.

Scott Forbes (36:06.43)
Chevalier. The Marvels.

Scott Forbes (36:15.742)
We're so close.

Bob Mann (36:19.744)
Pirate Artist Typist King being mentioned and there we are. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe Carol's next film we'll get more.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (36:22.036)
Listen, Carol's put an autographed poster in the post of me. Can't wait to get it up on the wall, genuinely.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (36:32.35)
I hope so she said she said It's criminal that an old British film with a great British cast was overlooked at the Oscars. I mean, at the BAFTAs. Well, I'm saying I really think it was criminal and you guys will say the same when you see that I guarantee it Exactly Scott that is the problem. It's a distribution. So again, you know, I know I know

Scott Forbes (36:33.43)
Don't know about a poster, you should be getting a percentage of the profits at this point.

Scott Forbes (36:42.302)
buffers.

Bob Mann (36:43.506)
Yep.

Yeah, I'm sure I will. And I promised I said.

Scott Forbes (36:50.078)
I think the problem was just not enough eyes Andy. And that's just me saying the truth. I don't think enough people have seen it.

Bob Mann (36:55.104)
Yeah.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (37:01.322)
I'm being a little bit but yeah yeah I'm stirring it a little bit.

Bob Mann (37:05.4)
Okay, so that's our view as to what's gonna pick up the awards on Sunday will we get it right well, we've kind of Documented them and they're in stone. I know Scott releases his final List of predictions on Facebook. I'm gonna post my final predictions try and get see some of these short films and Possibly some of the other features I've missed before

Rev. Andy Godfrey (37:30.794)
you

Bob Mann (37:32.736)
the Oscars, so I may post on Sunday and that will be the definitive. But I think all of those main categories are probably cemented in there. We'll see if there are any big surprises on Monday morning when we all wake up. Some of us will be watching it through the night and wake up very late on Monday morning. I have to. Oh, yeah. I have to.

Scott Forbes (37:46.014)
you

Rev. Andy Godfrey (37:51.648)
Wake me up when it's over.

Scott Forbes (37:56.978)
I've taken the day off work for this one. It's not just with it, at least with this one, you've got the entertainment side of it as well. So, oh, well, that could be hit or miss.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (37:59.178)
You guys are crazy! You get the results in the morning! Have a good night's sleep! Just get the results!

Bob Mann (38:09.92)
Yeah, it's always good.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (38:14.506)
It's worth sitting up to 3 o 'clock in the morning to see Ryan Gosling sing I Am Ken. Sorry, no it's not.

Scott Forbes (38:19.3)
Exactly, it is.

Bob Mann (38:19.392)
Half past four in the morning Andy, I think you're generally find. So, yeah, well, anyway, that's our little peccadilloes that Scott and I enjoy and we will be texting away no doubt to each other. I'm sure, I'm sure.

Rev. Andy Godfrey (38:23.178)
Whatever, no it's not. I'd rather have a good night's sleep, get the results and then I'm off to see Kermode. If you enjoy it guys, I do pray for you of course but...

Bob Mann (38:41.344)
Good. Okay. My thanks to Andy from Sorted Magazine and Konnect Radio and Scott from the Forbes Film and TV Review on Facebook. I've been Bob Mann from One Mann's Movies and let's see what the Oscars have to deliver to us on Sunday. Okay. Thanks very much for watching or listening. See you guys.